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LO AND ORDER dives into the critical issues impacting law enforcement professionals and the communities they protect. Hosted by Lolita Harper, we provide insightful discussions on topics that matter most to our public safety members, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges and triumphs of those who serve.
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In this powerful discussion, San Bernardino County District Attorney Jason Anderson sits down with SEBA Executive Director Lolita Harper to unpack the complexities of the justice system, the challenges of criminal legislation, and how law enforcement and prosecutors can work together to create safer communities.
From the impact of Prop 36 to the future of crime prevention, this is a must-watch conversation for anyone invested in public safety, justice, and the rule of law.
Podcast Overview:
[02:30] - What is Prop 36?
Prop 36 addresses gaps left by Prop 47, aiming to reduce drug-related crime and homelessness.
[08:15] - How Prop 36 Works
Drug offenses can now be charged as felonies, but offenders can avoid jail by completing rehab.
[12:30] - Addressing Theft & Serial Offenders Prop 36 allows repeat theft offenders to face felony charges, helping stop serial shoplifters.
[18:00] - Impact of Prop 47 & 57
Prop 47 & 57 led to rising theft, addiction, and homelessness, frustrating law enforcement.
[24:45] - Past Drug Court Success
Before Prop 47, San Bernardino led the nation in drug courts, helping hundreds overcome addiction.
[30:10] - Prop 36 & Retail Theft
Retailers like Target & Home Depot supported Prop 36 to combat rising shoplifting crimes.
[35:55] - Legislative Challenges
DAs and police were excluded from policy discussions, leading to ineffective crime laws.
[42:20] - Accountability & Rehabilitation
Prop 36 ensures rehabilitation is a choice, not a loophole, by requiring personal accountability.
[48:15] - The Death Penalty Debate
California voters continue to support the death penalty, but politics undermines enforcement.
[55:40] - Homelessness & Addiction
Homelessness is often tied to addiction, not just housing issues. Prop 36 aims to break this cycle.
[1:02:20] - Law Enforcement & Mental Health
Many mental health crises stem from drug use. Programs like Laura’s Law help with intervention.
[1:08:45] - Training for Prop 36
New officers don’t remember pre-Prop 47 laws. DA’s office is training them on new enforcement.
[1:15:10] - Measuring Success
Success will be tracked by rehab completions, case dismissals, and crime reduction.
[1:22:30] - Community Engagement
DA Anderson teaches high school students about their legal rights and law enforcement roles.
[1:30:45] - Final Thoughts
Public safety is everyone’s responsibility. Prop 36 must be implemented fairly for real change.
To learn more about the San Bernardino County District Attorney's Office visit: https://sbcountyda.org/
Learn more about the Sheriff's Employees' Benefit Association (SEBA): https://www.seba.com/
SEBA is the Sheriff's Employees' Benefit Association proudly representing 4,000+ public safety officers in San Bernardino County since 1946
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